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Put a Price on It



The State of Carbon Pricing

In This Episode:

[05:41] Michael shares what brought him to working on carbon pricing.

[08:12] Michael addresses how people would feel the impact of a carbon tax.

[10:38] How would putting a price on carbon play out?

[12:17] Michael comments on the cost of carbon pricing.

[13:19] How is carbon pricing implemented at the state level?

[14:38] Is there a proposal in the state of Massachusetts to implement carbon pricing?

[16:00] How close is Massachusetts to implementing the proposal?

[17:18] Michael shares if other states or governmental entities have passed putting a price on carbon.

[19:37] Michael states how close the vote was in the state of Washington.

[20:26] Michael explains how British Columbia’s system works.

[23:06] Michael talks about whether any of the proposals in Massachusetts are modeled after the one in British Columbia.

[23:42] How does Massachusetts compare with other states in relation to passing carbon pricing?

[25:08] Michael addresses the concern of making a state less competitive than others.

[26:32] What is California’s stance on carbon pricing?

[27:42] Michael gives his thoughts on where we’ll first get some form of carbon pricing.

[29:50] Michael shares what he noticed this week in the news.

[31:12] Mike tells what he noticed this week in the news.


Michael Green is the Executive Director of the Climate Action Business Association (CABA). He is also co-host here on Infinite Earth Radio. Michael is a seasoned advocate for climate policy and environmental action and has played strategic roles in several of the largest national, as well as international campaigns dedicated to fighting climate change. Since 2012, he has served as a representative to the United Nations focusing on international climate science and policy. As an activist, he has played strategic roles in several of the largest national, as well as international campaigns dedicated to fighting climate change. In his role at CABA, Michael manages staff and oversees the development of all program areas. He sits on the Board of Boston area non-profits as well as a policy advisor to national business associations on topics ranging from energy policy to climate adaptation. Michael is a Northeastern University graduate with degrees in international affairs and environmental studies, course work at the University of Edinburgh’s MSc Program in Environmental Protection and Management and Harvard Business School’s CORe Program.


Climate Action Business Association (CABA) is a membership-based organization in Boston, Massachusetts, that helps businesses take targeted action on climate change. We provide our member businesses with the resources and tools needed to work within their business on sustainability efforts, political advocacy and building a community of shared values.

Take Away Quotes:

“My original goal, going into college, was that I wanted to be a forest ranger. I’m from upstate New York and really wanted to be working out and preserving our forests and the Adirondack mountains. As I learned more about the challenges of climate change, I realized that being way out in the woods wasn’t going to be enough to really protect our natural habitat.”

“If people are starting to respond to a carbon tax because it’s already implemented, then, essentially, we’re losing the fight already because what it’s going to mean is it’s going to mean more expensive reliance on fossil fuels. So for those who are not able to make the transition, or are not willing to make the transition, they’re going to see an increase in cost.”

“We’re also going to create huge market signals for renewable-energy development and financiers who are questioning whether or not these transition technologies and opportunities stand to gain financially over time. So as much as we would see a price on our fossil-fuel reliance, at the same time you’re going to see a rapid decrease in cost in other technologies and other opportunities.”

“The number-one challenge that they faced wasn’t from the fossil-fuel industry, it wasn’t from conservative lawmakers, or climate deniers; it was actually from the Left. It was various groups that were concerned about making sure that the ballot initiative was written in a way that would be the most equitable way of going about putting a price on carbon.”


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